News.com looks at what comes after Firefox 1.0. "Now that it has the Firefox 1.0 milestone under its belt, the Mozilla Foundation has identified three areas for future growth and development: Cell phone and small-device browsing, desktop search integration, and OEM (original equipment manufacturer) distribution."
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No one wants to download a whole new browser
Posted Nov 10, 2004 16:12 UTC (Wed) by sfriedman (guest, #25961)
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Firefox won't do well until the OEM manufacturers begin to skirt microsoft and bundle the browser with the OS.
Joe Sixpack doesn't want to download a whole new program. Especially when he has to download each new version on his own without any "hold my hand" autoupdate assistance.
I've found that it's easier to get someone to understand the benefits of taking the time to download something like Firefox once they've seen tabbed browsing in action. I usually send them to breasy.com so they can get the flavor inside IE.
No one wants to download a whole new browser
Posted Nov 10, 2004 16:23 UTC (Wed) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
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I agree with the problem of the initial download, but firefox has the upgrade process for new versions handled well. I upgraded from 1.0pr to 1.0 by just hitting the upgrade icon that firefox popped up telling me there were updates to be had
No one wants to download a whole new browser
Posted Nov 11, 2004 3:37 UTC (Thu) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688)
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The problem with tabbed browsing, at least for me, is that the tabs are at the top of the window rather than the bottom. Is there any way to fix that in Firefox/Mozilla?
No one wants to download a whole new browser
Posted Nov 11, 2004 8:08 UTC (Thu) by Klavs (subscriber, #10563)
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Several extensions enables this choice.
No one wants to download a whole new browser
Posted Nov 11, 2004 9:35 UTC (Thu) by tearinghairout (guest, #18931)
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Have you tried turning your monitor upside-down?
Seriously though, how does this constitute a "problem" rather than some arbitrary personal preference?
No one wants to download a whole new browser
Posted Nov 11, 2004 16:02 UTC (Thu) by sepreece (subscriber, #19270)
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Failure to support "arbitrary personal preferences" IS a problem, for a consumer-oriented product, if those preferences are common.
However, the degree of customization supported by firefox seems to happily enable most kinds of changes that users would want to make, if they're willing to do a little extension hunting.
No one wants to download a whole new browser
Posted Nov 11, 2004 20:31 UTC (Thu) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688)
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> Seriously though, how does this constitute a "problem"
> rather than some arbitrary personal preference?
It's a problem because it's not what I want. That's why I said that it was a problem *for me*.
No one wants to download a whole new browser
Posted Nov 11, 2004 7:46 UTC (Thu) by janpla (guest, #11093)
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Firefox is already doing well, as far as I can see, and loads of people are downloading it. What is it you Americans always say? Defeatism? Surrender-monkeys?
Hey, don't worry - what matters here isn't world domination or 'the insurmoutable problem' of having to think and act on your own. Firefox is objectively a better browser than IE, and it is open source. The rest is less important.
No one wants to download a whole new browser
Posted Nov 11, 2004 13:43 UTC (Thu) by dan_b (subscriber, #22105)
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Cripes, yes. Nobody is going to download anything - you only have to look at the complete and utter flop that broadband net connections have been to see that there's no demand for getting stuff from the internet.
No one wants to download a whole new browser
Posted Nov 11, 2004 16:45 UTC (Thu) by melauer (guest, #2438)
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Yes, but are they going to want to download a new one of those things (a web browser) which they use for downloading other things? Is the web browser such a basic part of the whole downloading experience that they don't quite get the idea of "replacing" it?
Also, do people use those broadband connections to download data ("content" such as images, sounds, etc.) or programs?
I get the feeling that people mostly want to download content, and are happy with a few default content viewers unless they're told otherwise (e.g. "You need the ___ plugin to view this. Would you like to download it now?") This includes web browsers. That's my take on it anyway.