Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
With this release, the Fedora Project has also dropped support for Fedora
Core 1. Those still running FC1 will have to look to the Fedora Legacy Project for updates.
Posted Nov 9, 2004 16:00 UTC (Tue)
by dowdle (subscriber, #659)
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Posted Nov 9, 2004 16:34 UTC (Tue)
by mattdm (subscriber, #18)
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Wow; wake up on the hostile side of the bed today? FWIW, The official announcement of FC3 can be found here: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-November/msg00002.html. And LWN did indeed mention the transfer of FC1 support to Legacy earlier.
Posted Nov 9, 2004 16:55 UTC (Tue)
by dowdle (subscriber, #659)
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Posted Nov 9, 2004 17:42 UTC (Tue)
by mattdm (subscriber, #18)
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:)
Posted Nov 9, 2004 17:25 UTC (Tue)
by cconvey (guest, #11996)
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I upgraded a Toshiba laptop from FC2 to FC3, and it hangs at the "configuring kernel parameters" startup step.
I did a fresh install on a P4 server that was previously running FC2, and the screen goes blank (with just a cursor blinking in top-left corner) around the time the bootloader's menu should appear.
I realize I'm getting more than what I paid for. But still, since I'm already geared for a distro change (did my backups), I'm going to try a few newbie-somewhat-friendly Debian knockoffs: Ubuntu and/or Mepis. Those might give me a better balance between cutting-edge and buginess than FC3 has so far.
Posted Nov 9, 2004 17:44 UTC (Tue)
by tomsi (subscriber, #2306)
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I find that FC3 is the most stable version of Fedora yet. I have already installed it on a Pentium III, a Via C3 and a Celeron (PIII style).
Posted Nov 9, 2004 17:59 UTC (Tue)
by cconvey (guest, #11996)
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It's certainly plausible that I'm just one of the few people who lost the hardware-software-compatibility lottery this time around.
Posted Nov 9, 2004 18:34 UTC (Tue)
by xyz (subscriber, #504)
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Posted Nov 9, 2004 20:15 UTC (Tue)
by cconvey (guest, #11996)
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Posted Nov 13, 2004 20:38 UTC (Sat)
by TheCowSlayer (guest, #26011)
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I'm getting kinda sick of the FC Nvidia problems.
Posted Nov 22, 2004 12:48 UTC (Mon)
by rjthomas909 (guest, #26180)
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The problem was the driver from nvidia that I had installed and compiled in FC1.
Posted Nov 10, 2004 15:52 UTC (Wed)
by DennisJ (subscriber, #14700)
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If somthing like 24 hours of testing, and successfull installation
Posted Nov 9, 2004 18:03 UTC (Tue)
by loening (guest, #174)
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1. Grub was not installed (no boot screen, just the cursor in the top left corner). I loaded the system back up using disc1 in rescue mode, and grub-install told me something about md0 not being a BIOS drive. I got around this by temporary mucking with /etc/mtab (switching md0 to sda) and rerunning grub-install.
2. System hung at "configuring kernel parameters". I traced this down to the NVidia driver that I had just installed. Booting up in runlevel 3 without rhgb got my system back up.
Posted Nov 9, 2004 18:32 UTC (Tue)
by cconvey (guest, #11996)
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> 1. Grub was not installed (no boot screen, just the cursor in the top
This would be consistent with my server that's having this problem. It's using a RAID card that presents the array as a SCSI drive. I'll try out your fix.
What's your more permant solution?
> 2. System hung at "configuring kernel parameters". I traced this down to
Totally plausible for my laptop. That was an upgrade from FC2, and prior to the upgrade I had nVidia's driver installed.
Is there a way to suppress rhgb without doing serious surgery on the init files?
Alternatively, do you think I could just boot up in runlevel 3, reinstall the nVidia driver, and fixup my xorg.conf file accordingly?
Thanks,
Posted Nov 9, 2004 18:38 UTC (Tue)
by xyz (subscriber, #504)
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Posted Nov 9, 2004 18:51 UTC (Tue)
by cconvey (guest, #11996)
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After mucking with grub.conf, do I need to run some program so that the changes to grub.conf will take effect on future boots?
Posted Nov 9, 2004 18:59 UTC (Tue)
by tomsi (subscriber, #2306)
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That is the sweet thing about grub. Edit your file and reboot.
Posted Nov 9, 2004 19:59 UTC (Tue)
by elanthis (guest, #6227)
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I found that if I boot into single user mode that step will not hang. I can then telinit to run level 5.
Actually, it's not the configuring kernel parameter step that fails. If you disable that in the script, the next step fails instead. I just haven't been able to pinpoint the problem to come up with the actual/correct fix.
Posted Nov 9, 2004 20:17 UTC (Tue)
by cconvey (guest, #11996)
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Posted Nov 11, 2004 1:02 UTC (Thu)
by QuantumKnot (guest, #25967)
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I boot into single mode, install the NVIDIA driver, then continue and it works. I see the nvidia logo pop up and gdm comes up fine. Then when I reboot FC3, then it stalls in the middle (due to rhgb). When I turn off rhgb in grub, it makes it to the text login screen, but X cant start and comes up with an error message saying it cant initialise the nvidia kernel module or something.
The only way to rectify this temporarily is to again login as root and install the NVIDIA driver. If you do it this way, you'll get the "NVIDIA license taints kernel" message, which is what I saw in FC2. However, you don't see this message when installing the driver in single mode. However, just because it 'taints the kernel' doesnt mean much since once you reboot, again we have the same problem. :(
So I've traced it down to something wrong with the NVIDIA kernel module not getting loaded properly during startup.
Posted Nov 11, 2004 1:29 UTC (Thu)
by QuantumKnot (guest, #25967)
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http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/udev/
Look down at the bottom.
Posted Nov 15, 2004 5:03 UTC (Mon)
by dhonn (guest, #26036)
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http://www.dhonnlushine.com/fc3-nvidia.html
You don't have to play with udev until the drivers get fixed.
Hmmm, I thought I saw an official announcement from Bill Notingham(sp?) Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
yesterday... along with about 80 or so update package announcements... so
why you didn't get a copy is beyond me.
FC1 was turned over to the Fedora Legacy project some time ago. I guess
you missed that announcement too.
You could have also found it on the http://fedora.redhat.com/ site on the
front page (about FC3 being out and FC1 being moved to legacy)
Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
Didn't mean to sound negative with my comments. Just stating my Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
perception. :)
Take no offense. I did forward the fedora-mailinglist announcement Bill
sent out to lwn@lwn.net so hopefully corbet will get that.
Given the fact that the Fedora folks were probably pumping out a ton of
email, updates, and some iso transfers, perhaps some of the mail is queued
up or something?!?
When I said something was beyond me or that corbet missed something, it is
possible that it simply wasn't sent or that spam filters falsely
identified it or something... not that there is something wrong with
corbet. corbet rules! I've told him he is my "hero" before. :)
Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
I'm actually not so thrilled with my experience so far...Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
You haven't gotten hold of a AMD64 version of FC3 by accident ?Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
Nope. It's definitely the i386 version :(Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
What is the graphic card? Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
It's builtin to the laptop: GeForce Fx5200Go. (I maybe rearranged some name-fragments by accident.)Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
I'm having similar problems, I believe it has to do with the NVIDIA driver. I started from a fresh install and it worked fine untill I installed NVIDIA driver 1.0-6629. Perhaps I will try one of the older versions, or compile a new kernel.Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
I had the exact same problem with a Dell Inspiron 8000 with the Geforce2go. My solution was to boot with the rescue disk, change the inittab to boot with runlevel 3, reboot, and reset the xorg config file to use the default stock driver nv, reboot, change the inittab to runlevel 5 and everything was fine.Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
> I find that FC3 is the most stable version of Fedora yet. I have Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
> already installed it on a Pentium III, a Via C3 and a Celeron
> (PIII style).
on three machines is enough to tell you that FC3 is substantially
more stable than older FCs, I'm surprised that you're still willing
to try out FC, or aren't busy tracking down your faulty hardware.
I installed it yesterday, and ran into two problems. This is with the x86_64 version, and using two SATA drives in a RAID1 configuration.Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
Wow, it's like you're in my shoes. This is great.Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
> left corner). I loaded the system back up using disc1 in rescue mode,
> and grub-install told me something about md0 not being a BIOS drive. I
> got around this by temporary mucking with /etc/mtab (switching md0 to
> sda) and rerunning grub-install.
> the NVidia driver that I had just installed. Booting up in runlevel 3
> without rhgb got my system back up.
Christian
Notice that in the new version you can have a different configuration for Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
for rhgb, different from your xserver.
To disable the graphical boot simply go to /etc/grub.conf and remove the
rhgb from the configuration, easier it would be impossile. :-)
Thanks. I'm grub-clueless, so I'm going to ask a follow-up question:Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
No.Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
I get the hang at configuring kernel parameters to. I've been following Rawhide for a while, it started a couple weeks ago.Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
Is it possible that the reason you're technique works is that you sidestep rhgb? (I don't know whether or not you do sidestep it.)Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
The NVIDIA problems seems to be related to the kernel modules disappearing or getting corrupted after reboot.Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
Found this fix:Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped
I have a work around for fc3/nvidia that works perfect:Fedora Core 3 available, FC1 dropped