Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-rc4-mm1-U8 [LWN.net]

From:		Ingo Molnar <mingo-AT-elte.hu>
To:		Bill Huey <bhuey-AT-lnxw.com>
Subject:		Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-rc4-mm1-U8
Date:		Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:00:06 +0200
Cc:		Jens Axboe <axboe-AT-suse.de>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx-AT-linutronix.de>, Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc-AT-rncbc.org>, LKML <linux-kernel-AT-vger.kernel.org>, Lee Revell <rlrevell-AT-joe-job.com>, mark_h_johnson-AT-raytheon.com, "K.R. Foley" <kr-AT-cybsft.com>, Adam Heath <doogie-AT-debian.org>, Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas-AT-gmx.net>, Michal Schmidt <xschmi00-AT-stud.feec.vutbr.cz>, Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano <nando-AT-ccrma.stanford.edu>


* Bill Huey <bhuey@lnxw.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 08:19:01AM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > It has to go, why? Because your deadlock detection breaks? Doesn't seem
> > a very strong reason to me at all, sorry.
> 
> The deadlock detector is needed. Whether you understand that or not is
> irrelevant to the current work that's being done. And your idiot
> attacks against it doesn't correct these issues nor does it gain
> credibility with the audience that does find it useful.

oh no!

/me watches the flames fan out again as a bushfire

do you expect there to be any meaningful technical discussion resulting
out of you calling Jens' (valid) comments 'idiot attacks'? Fact is,
upstream couldnt care less about PREEMPT_REALTIME and/or the deadlock
detector at this point. Upstream _never_ cared about any not yet merged
(and in this case, completely unfinished) feature.

/me apologizes to Jens

	Ingo
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