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Interview: Martin Taylor, Microsoft's Linux expert (vnunet)
Vnunet talks with Martin
Taylor, global general manager of platform strategy at Microsoft.
"How are you seeing Linux in the market? The other thing
we're finding is more and more people wanting to deploy a commercialised
Linux version. They don't want their own custom configured kernel [or]
custom distribution. They want to pick up the phone [and say]: 'Help me
this is broken.' So that puts you into Red Hat/Novell-SuSE's
ballpark. Both those have pricing models for support and security patches
more expensive than Windows Server. So in some cases you could say I am
under-priced compared to the marketplace. That's what we're seeing."
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Interview: Martin Taylor, Microsoft's Linux expert (vnunet) Posted Oct 19, 2004 20:56 UTC (Tue) by clugstj (subscriber, #4020) [Link] "So in some cases you could say I am under-priced compared to the marketplace."
Only if you assume that your product is as valuable as the competition's. Since Red Hat is picking up customers, it would seem that your product is worth less than the competition's.
Interview: Martin Taylor, Microsoft's Linux expert (vnunet) Posted Oct 19, 2004 20:59 UTC (Tue) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link] They want to pick up the phone [and say]: 'Help me this is broken.' So that puts you into Red Hat/Novell-SuSE's ballpark. Both those have pricing models for support and security patches more expensive than Windows Server.He worded that very carefully - consider, for instance, his statement that suse does have pricing models more expensive than windows server. While it is true that you can find a suse support plan more expensive than the price of windows, let's not neglect to mention that you can also obtain suse at a much lower cost than than windows server... Suse enterprise has various levels of support available, as much or as little as you want, and most companies with in-house linux talent really don't need any handholding, so the "premium" support may not even be needed. And for those small businesses that for whatever reason don't need all the "enterprise" level guarantees and handholding, suse professional is just fine. Trust me, there are businesses out there running on suse professional, and it just works, support contract or not.
Interview: Martin Taylor, Microsoft's Linux expert (vnunet) Posted Oct 19, 2004 21:25 UTC (Tue) by kornak (guest, #17589) [Link] Less expensive possibly if you consider the OS as the only value proposition.Considering the fact that Microsoft charges a great deal for database, mail server, office tools, development tools, etc, etc. They are no longer even in the same ballpark if they ever were in the first place.
Interview: Martin Taylor, Microsoft's Linux expert (vnunet) Posted Oct 19, 2004 23:10 UTC (Tue) by allesfresser (guest, #216) [Link] Very good point. When Microsoft can hand me a CD for $3 that has their OS, office tools, web server, development tools, several games, etc., etc., etc. on it, all enabled without restriction or "activation" necessary, that I can copy and give away to anyone I want, then maybe we can start to talk about equivalent cost. (Oh, and by the way, the source code needs to be included, of course.)
They can't do that? Why not? I already have such a thing in my hand. It's called Slackware, it's been around for more than ten years, and it runs solid as a rock, and far more secure than their stuff. Oh, it ruins their business model? They can't make $billions that way? *That's* why it's impossible...I get it now.
Guess how much I care that they can't make $billions that way? It's not my fault if their business model is near the end of its life cycle.
Indigo Posted Oct 19, 2004 21:39 UTC (Tue) by kasperd (guest, #11842) [Link] Somewhere he talks about Indigo, is that in any way related to Indigo Magic?
Interview: Martin Taylor, Microsoft's Linux expert (vnunet) Posted Oct 20, 2004 2:04 UTC (Wed) by ccchips (subscriber, #3222) [Link] Marketer:
Somebody who didn't get spanked for lying as a child.
Interview: Martin Taylor, Microsoft's Linux expert (vnunet) Posted Oct 20, 2004 6:22 UTC (Wed) by epeeist (guest, #1743) [Link] > Marketer:
> Somebody who didn't get spanked for lying as a child.
Expert:
From Ex (has been) and Spert (Drip, under pressure)
Interview: Martin Taylor, Microsoft's Linux expert (vnunet) Posted Oct 20, 2004 11:05 UTC (Wed) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link] Expert.
From Ex.
And Pert (sticking up proudly, like a *****).
Cheers,
Did he really say ``increase[d] time to market''? Posted Oct 20, 2004 13:21 UTC (Wed) by Max.Hyre (subscriber, #1054) [Link] And so we [ask] what if we could actually build an engine leveraging the assets of Great Plains and Navision to allow ISVs to build on top of to reduce their research and development costs and hopefully increase their time to market with applicationsI guess he did.
Interview: Martin Taylor, Microsoft's Linux expert (vnunet) Posted Oct 20, 2004 21:42 UTC (Wed) by petegn (guest, #847) [Link] what a load of bucking follocks..
pete
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