Red Hat Hires Sun Executive to Head up Desktop Infrastructure Technologies
[Posted October 19, 2004 by ris]
Red Hat, Inc. has announced
the appointment of Karen Tegan-Padir as Vice President of Desktop
Infrastructure Technologies. Tegan-Padir comes to Red Hat from SUN
Microsystems where she most recently held the position of Vice President of
Engineering for J2EE platforms and Application Server products.
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Red Hat Hires Sun Executive to Head up Desktop Infrastructure Technologies
Posted Oct 19, 2004 18:34 UTC (Tue) by vondo (guest, #256)
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Interesting. The company that can't figure out where it's going with desktop linux hires an exec from the company that can't figure out where it's going with linux in general to head their desktop department.
Red Hat Hires Sun Executive to Head up Desktop Infrastructure Technologies
Posted Oct 19, 2004 22:40 UTC (Tue) by hppnq (guest, #14462)
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This is not flamebait, I really want to know: what makes you think Red Hat is clueless on the desktop front? I've seen this remark a couple of times now, and every time it surprises me. It's clear Red Hat is aiming at the enterprise and it seems like they put more effort in the server distributions, but I wouldn't say they're not going anywhere on the desktop.
Red Hat Hires Sun Executive to Head up Desktop Infrastructure Technologies
Posted Oct 19, 2004 22:56 UTC (Tue) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330)
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Take a look at Fedora Core 2 sometime. Red Hat knows what they are doing on the desktop.
Also, while I've been known to do a bit of Sun-bashing, Sun has made huge contributions to the free desktop (whether Gnome or KDE) through their work on accessibility.
Red Hat Hires Sun Executive to Head up Desktop Infrastructure Technologies
Posted Oct 19, 2004 23:12 UTC (Tue) by hppnq (guest, #14462)
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Right, my impression as well. Hence my confusion. ;-)
Red Hat Hires Sun Executive to Head up Desktop Infrastructure Technologies
Posted Oct 20, 2004 11:05 UTC (Wed) by hingo (guest, #14792)
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Was it this year or last year that a Red Hat exec recommended using Windows for the desktop? I don't know how official a statement that was, but we should at least be allowed to laugh at them a little :-)
Now personally, I can't consider any distribution that doesn't (truly make an effort to) support KDE as a serious desktop distribution, but I realise that 50% of the hacker community disagrees with me here, so I'll just apologize and shut up.
Red Hat Hires Sun Executive to Head up Desktop Infrastructure Technologies
Posted Oct 20, 2004 16:38 UTC (Wed) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767)
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Matthew Szulik said that at that time Windows was probably the best choice for the average home desktop user, and that RedHat would not offer a home desktop version until such time as it had something that would not disappoint the home user.
Predictably, the usual band of fanatical anti RedHat hotheads twisted that into a condemnation of Linux on the desktop.
I'm firmly convinced that more damage is done to the cause of Linux and FLOSS by its friends than is done by its enemies.
Red Hat Hires Sun Executive to Head up Desktop Infrastructure Technologies
Posted Oct 20, 2004 22:49 UTC (Wed) by markc (subscriber, #4419)
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Yes, and that's an admission that RedHat can't do anything to improve
"linux", well enough, for the average desktop user. Like, they've given up
on doing what they started out doing which was supplying a CD distro of
"linux" and made enough out of that to become a medium sized corporation.
They have failed us and the fragmented linux desktop model failed them, so
they gave up and focus on an enterprise subset and chuck out their
original baby to that fragmented linux community to sort out for
themselves. I have to ask... how come one guy, the guy that originally put
Knoppix together, can just about eclipse what all of RedHat and Debian
combined have done and put together an end user linux desktop experience
that works well for an average user? How can such a niche micro effort can
reach so far into a workable and usable model when large corporations and
mega developer systems can't seem to reach the same heights of usability?
One RH employee says the masses are better off using WinXP and another
dude, originally on his own, makes it possible so those unenlightened
masses can at least try this not-quite-enough-yet inferior desktop system.
Mind you, I don't care as I've been using a perfectly acceptable linux
desktop for the last 9 years and a full 64-bit one for all of this year. I
miss some of the easy end-user conveniences and applications but I don't
miss the adware, spyware and the crapful and downright deceitful web
environment presented to the typical Win/Mac user. apt-get and emerge are
sweet and something masses of those average users out there are missing
out on.
Red Hat Hires Sun Executive to Head up Desktop Infrastructure Technologies
Posted Oct 23, 2004 7:35 UTC (Sat) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767)
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> Yes, and that's an admission that RedHat can't do anything to improve
"linux", well enough, for the average desktop user. Like, they've given up
on doing what they started out doing which was supplying a CD distro of
"linux" and made enough out of that to become a medium sized corporation.
*Sigh*...
It was a statement that, at the time, they didn't have a home desktop that they would be willing to stand behind and stake their reputation upon.
As to Knoppix, Linux has had a number of one man shows that are very impressive because one person can get the project 90% of the way there. (Hi, Patrick!) That's the power of open source; So much has already been done by others. It's the last 10% that's really hard. Knoppix is nice as a "Linux in a pinch" solution in its live cd form, but I'm not tempted to trade in my FC2 desktop on it. One could equally well ask why Debian, with all its resources has not been able to score a "Knoppix".