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A Sun engineer on Linux

A Sun engineer on Linux

Posted Sep 24, 2004 5:40 UTC (Fri) by hppnq (subscriber, #14462)
In reply to: A Sun engineer on Linux by cajal
Parent article: A Sun engineer on Linux

Okay, please show me the comments then, if you insist. The only "SPARC sucks" type of comment I have seen so far here seemed to defend Eric's stance rather clumsily.

You cannot seriously mean what you say about IBM's deployment of AIX. IBM ships high-end pSeries with AIX because Linux isn't ready for it yet?! That's a nice one, hadn't heard that before! (Since that is the only reason you mention, please don't catch me on that one, I know a few more reasons why IBM would want their own OS for their hardware.)

Here is the current recommended patch set for Solaris 8. Note the revisions. That's what I call frantic. If you want to talk features with me, not bugfixes, please take a good hard look at the features that Solaris 10 offers, they're hilarious. Also, note the remarkable similarity to Eric's piece. And, of course, the punchline: Linux binaries run natively on Solaris 10. Claiming that Linux has a binary compatibility problem itself is sheer stupidity. If you want to call that bashing, please, go ahead, but pick another platform.

I applaud your apparent commitment to Open Source, but I still think you do not fully get it.


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A Sun engineer on Linux

Posted Sep 24, 2004 13:09 UTC (Fri) by cajal (guest, #4167) [Link]

Ok, one last time, because I just don't care enough to continue this thread anymore....

Yes, AIX has features and hardware support for pSeries hardware that Linux lacks. Yes, this is one reason why IBM still ships AIX. There's also the issue of application support. And some environments have been running AIX for years and don't want to retrain their staff on Linux. I'm not saying that no one is migrating from AIX to Linux, just that I don't see it happening en masse. In the long run, I do think IBM's hardware strategy is interesting -- in a few years' time it should be possible to run AIX, Linux, i5/OS and z/OS on the same machine in different LPARs.

It's also interesting that you don't bother listing what any of these "few other reasons" are, but I'll leave that alone for now.

All your link to the Solaris 8 patchcluster proves is that Solaris, like Linux, AIX, Windows and everything else, requires patches. Solaris 8 is four years old, after all. As for Solaris 10, I'm very much impressed. Have you read the DTrace Guide? Predictive Self- healing also looks to be quite useful; I'm looking forward to testing it out on my test machine. I'm not crazy about Sun's use of so much XML for it, but I can live. As for the rest, I don't see how they're "hilarious" -- a faster TCP stack, a new filesystem, improved process rights management, etc. They all look useful. Maybe if you looked into them further, rather than just linking to a marketing page by Sun you'd realize that. Frankly, I'm still waiting for Linux to be able to properly handle large pages. (yes, ok, that last line was a troll, I was in a jovial mood).

Now, as concerns your allegations of trolling, I have to say it sounds to me like you're being the troll. This is the second time you've told me that I "just don't get it" when it comes to open source development, and now you claim that I only have "apparent" commitment to open source, but you haven't offered any reasons at all for that statement. Sounds like more baseless namecalling to me.

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