Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2 [LWN.net]

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 20, 2004 22:46 UTC (Mon) by jensend (guest, #1385)
In reply to: Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2 by hadess
Parent article: Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

After being a RH user since 5.2 I used FC1 and, for a short time, FC2. I gave up after realizing that RedHat is not interested in fixing fundamental problems but rather in using Fedora as a battery of test drugs on a community of guinea pigs. Recent RPM releases have all been terribly broken (hangs and locking problems everywhere you turn), RH's tools are horribly bloated and ineffective (look at how much memory is taken up by such things as the update alert applet and at how miserably bad a job the various system-* tools do), RH is at the forefront of the Gnome user hostility programme which has driven Gnome usability ever further into the ground since 1.4 (and incorporates the user-hostile ideology into everything else as well, including the install), other desktops and WMs are given short shrift, every package is built in a way that maximizes dependencies, and in general there's a feeling of fighting the distro to get anything done.

I think about a quarter of the updates for FC2 are just either package nomenclature updates or the latest reroll of gaim.

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Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 21, 2004 4:34 UTC (Tue) by dang (subscriber, #310) [Link]

nice troll. you get horrible hangs and locking problems from nomenclature and gaim updates?

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 21, 2004 20:26 UTC (Tue) by jensend (guest, #1385) [Link]

Not all the software in the world resides in the Fedora updates repo, and I didn't claim that the updates repo consists only of nomenclature changes or gaim updates either.

I did try using RH's bugzilla. Most of the problems I ran into had been reported long before and were either ignored, improperly marked as being fixed (often after no action on the bug had been taken), or marked WONTFIX or NOTABUG. Looking through their bugzilla again now, it appears one of the bugs I was tracking, first reported in RH9 and marked as fixed several times without making real progress, may finally be fixed in FC3.

Fedora might be fine as a server; RH has been fairly consistent with their security updates, and besides rpm locks or hangs (most of which may well occur when using up2date or system-config-packages and its ilk) almost all of the other problems I had were with X-based stuff.

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 21, 2004 9:17 UTC (Tue) by micampe (guest, #4384) [Link]

It's kinda weird seeing /. commenters migrate to LWN whenever there's a news about GNOME, desktop Linux or Fedora.

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 21, 2004 14:13 UTC (Tue) by penguinroar (guest, #14460) [Link]

I use Fedora in a production enviroment and find it just as stable as Novell Netware and miles ahead of Windows 2003. I havent had any problems at all regarding fedora and find it perfectly stable enough for a server, not to mention a desktop. The only thing Fedora needs is users who are more active in filing bugs because there are occasions where a group of people sits around waiting for a fix to something the developers lack information of or sufficient bug reports to be able to reproduce the problem.

Then again i myself havent walked into any problems but if you do complain, file a bug!