Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2 [LWN.net]

Coming soon to a site near you... for the first time, it's the new, digitally remastered, Fedora Core 3 Test 2! Now, you can take home this never before seen four-disc set, chock full of new software and exciting bonus features! Includes hundreds of new and updated packages over the original edition, including: - a minor change to the device model, switching from a static /dev to a dynamic /dev provided by udev - SELinux enablement - the GNOME 2.8 release candidate - KDE 3.3.0 - X.org X11 6.8.0 Please report problems at: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla File bugs against product 'Fedora Core', release 'fc3test2'. For more information on just waht the Fedora Project and Fedora Core is, please see: http://fedora.redhat.com/ Fedora Core 3 Test 2 is available at the following sites: * North America: * USA East: * ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://mirror.cs.princeton.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/linux/co... * http://ftp.dc.aleron.net/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.dc.aleron.net/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * rsync://ftp.dc.aleron.net::fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * ftp://redhat.secsup.org/pub/linux/redhat/fedora/core/test... * http://redhat.secsup.org/fedora/core/test/2.91 * ftp://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/... * http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux... * ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.ale.org/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * http://ftp.ale.org/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/cor... * http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/co... * rsync://rsync.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91 * ftp://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://mirror.hiwaay.net/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2... * ftp://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://mirror.linux.duke.edu/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91/ * USA West: * http://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * Canada: * ftp://less.cogeco.net/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/core/t... * ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/core/te... * rsync://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * http://gulus.USherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/fedora/linux/core/... * South America: * Europe: * Austria: * ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * Czech Republic: * ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp6.linux.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ (IPv6) * ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/test/2.91/ * http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/test/2.91/ * rsync://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/fedora/fedora/test/2.91/ * ftp://ultra.linux.cz/pub/fedora/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp1.skynet.cz/pub/linux/fedora/test/2.91 * Denmark: * ftp://klid.dk/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * Finland: * http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora... - i386 only * ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/... - i386 only * http://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/f... - i386 only * ftp://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fe... - i386 only * France: * ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * Germany: * ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/linux/fedora-... * http://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/linux/fe... * ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/test/2.91/ * http://download.atrpms.net/mirrors/fedoracore/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.stw-bonn.de/pub/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/2... * http://ftp.stw-bonn.de/pub/mirror/fedora/linux/core/test/... * ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/tes... * rsync://rsync.uni-bayreuth.de/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/fe... * rsync://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * Ireland: * http://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pu... * ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub... * rsync://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * Netherlands: * ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.quicknet.nl/pub/Linux/download.fedora.redhat.co... * ftp://ftp.eu.uu.net/pub/linux/fedora/test/2.91/ * Poland: * ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/test... * http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/tes... * rsync://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.wsisiz.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/test/... * Portugal: * http://tux.cprm.net/pub/ftp.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/... * ftp://tux.cprm.net/pub/ftp.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/t... * Romania: * http://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * United Kingdom: * http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linu... * ftp://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux... * rsync://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/fedora-linux-core/test/2.91/ * Asia/Pacific: * Australia: * http://planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://rsync.planetmirror.com/fedora-linux-core-test/2.91/ * Japan: * ftp://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.riken.jp/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * ftp://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Linux/packages/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * http://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Linux/packages/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * rsync://ftp.kddilabs.jp/fedora/core/test/2.91/ * Taiwan: * http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 * ftp://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/linux/core/test/2.91 More mirrors will come online in the near future; check: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html for a list of mirrors that carry Fedora Core. One additional feature provided by the Linux community is the availability of Fedora Core releases via BitTorrent. http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/FC3-test2-binary-i386.torrent http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/FC3-test2-binary-x86_64.tor... See http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/ for other forms, including SRPMS and the DVD iso. RPMS for BitTorrent are available from: http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/btrpms/ Usage is simple: btdownloadcurses.py --url http://URL.torrent Allow incoming TCP 6881 - 6889 to join the torrent swarm.

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 20, 2004 18:21 UTC (Mon) by jensend (guest, #1385) [Link]

That's what you get for using a distro which is a perpetual beta test.

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 20, 2004 21:23 UTC (Mon) by sandy_pond (guest, #9734) [Link]

You want a stable disto it's like eating cake without the frosting and milk ... dry and hard to swallow :)

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 20, 2004 21:26 UTC (Mon) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link]

Every production release of any product is just another stage of testing.

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 20, 2004 21:34 UTC (Mon) by hadess (subscriber, #24252) [Link]

Not quite, look at the number of updates for FC2. The bugs are actually getting fixes, you know.

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 20, 2004 22:46 UTC (Mon) by jensend (guest, #1385) [Link]

After being a RH user since 5.2 I used FC1 and, for a short time, FC2. I gave up after realizing that RedHat is not interested in fixing fundamental problems but rather in using Fedora as a battery of test drugs on a community of guinea pigs. Recent RPM releases have all been terribly broken (hangs and locking problems everywhere you turn), RH's tools are horribly bloated and ineffective (look at how much memory is taken up by such things as the update alert applet and at how miserably bad a job the various system-* tools do), RH is at the forefront of the Gnome user hostility programme which has driven Gnome usability ever further into the ground since 1.4 (and incorporates the user-hostile ideology into everything else as well, including the install), other desktops and WMs are given short shrift, every package is built in a way that maximizes dependencies, and in general there's a feeling of fighting the distro to get anything done.

I think about a quarter of the updates for FC2 are just either package nomenclature updates or the latest reroll of gaim.

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 21, 2004 4:34 UTC (Tue) by dang (subscriber, #310) [Link]

nice troll. you get horrible hangs and locking problems from nomenclature and gaim updates?

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 21, 2004 20:26 UTC (Tue) by jensend (guest, #1385) [Link]

Not all the software in the world resides in the Fedora updates repo, and I didn't claim that the updates repo consists only of nomenclature changes or gaim updates either.

I did try using RH's bugzilla. Most of the problems I ran into had been reported long before and were either ignored, improperly marked as being fixed (often after no action on the bug had been taken), or marked WONTFIX or NOTABUG. Looking through their bugzilla again now, it appears one of the bugs I was tracking, first reported in RH9 and marked as fixed several times without making real progress, may finally be fixed in FC3.

Fedora might be fine as a server; RH has been fairly consistent with their security updates, and besides rpm locks or hangs (most of which may well occur when using up2date or system-config-packages and its ilk) almost all of the other problems I had were with X-based stuff.

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 21, 2004 9:17 UTC (Tue) by micampe (guest, #4384) [Link]

It's kinda weird seeing /. commenters migrate to LWN whenever there's a news about GNOME, desktop Linux or Fedora.

Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 2

Posted Sep 21, 2004 14:13 UTC (Tue) by penguinroar (guest, #14460) [Link]

I use Fedora in a production enviroment and find it just as stable as Novell Netware and miles ahead of Windows 2003. I havent had any problems at all regarding fedora and find it perfectly stable enough for a server, not to mention a desktop. The only thing Fedora needs is users who are more active in filing bugs because there are occasions where a group of people sits around waiting for a fix to something the developers lack information of or sufficient bug reports to be able to reproduce the problem.

Then again i myself havent walked into any problems but if you do complain, file a bug!

Remastered?

Posted Sep 20, 2004 21:59 UTC (Mon) by slippytoad (guest, #13894) [Link]

I think it was just a figure of speech, a parody of Music CD launch announcements, or something.

Remastered?

Posted Sep 21, 2004 5:22 UTC (Tue) by wcooley (subscriber, #1233) [Link]

Digital remastering (I think) is where sound engineers take old analog recording and produce digital audio with them, usually attempting to clean up noise and such. It's used here as a parody, as the other poster said.

Remastered?

Posted Sep 22, 2004 5:26 UTC (Wed) by barryn (subscriber, #5996) [Link]

The digitally remastered Star Wars DVD set was just released (in the United States anyway). It's a joke about that.