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Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK)
ZDNet UK
covers the release by Sybase of the Express Edition
Adaptive Server Enterprise (ASE) database for Linux.
"Simon Riggs, a PostgreSQL developer, said on Thursday that he is not worried about the impact that ASE could have. Instead, he sees it as another sign that companies are worried about the impact of open-source databases.
"It is not a threat at all," said Riggs. "In fact, it is a good sign. Companies obviously see free, open-source databases such as PostgreSQL as such a serious threat that they are going out of their way to produce a free database.""
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Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK) Posted Sep 9, 2004 16:59 UTC (Thu) by danielos (subscriber, #6053) [Link] "Sybase carried out a performance study on ASE in HP's labs. The study found that ASE is the fastest database on a four-CPU Linux system, but it's not clear what it was tested against."... against nothing. well this demostrate that at least it works as a dbms: this document is a must read..
Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK) Posted Sep 9, 2004 20:41 UTC (Thu) by aotheoverlord (guest, #3993) [Link] To be fair to Sybase, most DBMS licenses preclude you from publishing results of any sort of benchmark without permission, so they probably can't list who they compared against. This is where the TPC benchmarks comes in.
Unfortunately, those are abused by companies like Microsoft who just keep running tests so as to force everyone else out of the top 10. Perhaps if they spent less time doing this and more time fixing their security problems ... ;-)
Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK) Posted Sep 10, 2004 12:02 UTC (Fri) by danielos (subscriber, #6053) [Link] ok, but what is for a graph with a line in? it's a function analisis for himself or an interpolation exercise? The only thing I see there is that dbms work and do transaction, that it scale as aspected, but I don't have the same 4 CPU machine I can't do a comparition by myself.
Also this: http://mysqld.active-venture.com/MySQL_Benchmarks.html ?
Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK) Posted Sep 10, 2004 13:11 UTC (Fri) by aotheoverlord (guest, #3993) [Link] Well, to be equally fair to Oracle, those numbers are very bad, and are most likely the result of people not configuring the Oracle database correctly.
(Anyone remember the original Mindcraft benchmarks?)
Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK) Posted Sep 9, 2004 20:15 UTC (Thu) by emesvtsedek (guest, #24615) [Link] The assertion that this is the first free production database for Linux is simply untrue. SAP DB, now Max DB is in fact the first database used in actual production in core business systems that is also freely available. It is also in open source under the GPL.
Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK) Posted Sep 9, 2004 21:24 UTC (Thu) by zenaan (subscriber, #3778) [Link] If you believe that PostgreSQL, even MySQL, is/are not used in "core production systems", you are either mistaken/ uninformed, or simply lying. I suggest you do some research and stop spreading this FUD. It gets tiring to hear it.
Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK) Posted Sep 9, 2004 21:34 UTC (Thu) by hppnq (guest, #14462) [Link] Maybe your parent poster meant to say "proprietary" or "commercial" or "traditionally non-free" instead of "production". Miscommunication does not equal FUD. ;-)
Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK) Posted Sep 9, 2004 21:35 UTC (Thu) by hppnq (guest, #14462) [Link] Forgot the crucial bit: blame ZDNet instead. ;-)
Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK) Posted Sep 13, 2004 13:23 UTC (Mon) by emesvtsedek (guest, #24615) [Link] Please allow me to clarify my definition, and ask you toreconfirm your comment:
By core 'business', not core 'production' systems I am
Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK) Posted Sep 14, 2004 19:49 UTC (Tue) by zenaan (subscriber, #3778) [Link] So it appears you are simply uninformed.
Given that, it is frustrating that you don't bother to do the research yourself. Just throw some bombastic comments out there and let the "Free Software Supporters" research and refute you if they can, right. That is worthy of little more than slashdot. You might find a warmer reception over there...
Short of having time to do more (of your) research, I suggest you go read up on the following:
Granted these are not as widely known as SAP (yet), they are clearly evidence that people were looking at ERP/Accounting on OSS long before the recent "converts" came to the scene, and in some cases there are production deployments of these systems. This (obviously, as it shouldn't be necessary to point out the empirically observed behaviour of free software) will accelerate over time.
Feature-wise, PostgreSQL is now starting to push Sybase off the market (point in time recovery, on line backups, clustering) - as in, be a viable "full replacement". It apparently used to be 5th, just after Sybase, but has recently started displacing Sybase more consistently, for new deployments. There is no surprise at all that Sybase is acting as they are. You don't gut part of your market unless you've already lost it.
You might be a fan-boy, but don't appear to be a great friend, of Free Software. If you want to be held in esteem as part of the community, you'll need to raise your bar.
Sybase releases 'first free production database for Linux' (ZDNet UK) Posted Sep 14, 2004 23:38 UTC (Tue) by zenaan (subscriber, #3778) [Link] On re-reading my post, it is a little too biting perhaps.
My apologies,
ERP product using PostgreSQL Posted Sep 16, 2004 18:51 UTC (Thu) by nedlilly (subscriber, #24769) [Link] As the CEO of a company who's built an entire ERP application on PostgreSQL, I think I can safely say it's up to the task of managing "systems in a business which relate to financial or other crucial operational aspects of the business."OpenMFG (www.openmfg.com) includes the following modules: Inventory Management | Part Definition and Costing | Work Order Management | Master Scheduling and MRP | Capacity Planning | Purchase Order Management | Sales Order Management | Shipping and Receiving | Sales Analysis | Accounts Payable | Accounts Receivable | General Ledger. All of the business logic occurs in pl/pgsql, PostgreSQL's powerful procedural language. We have never, in over three years of continuous operations at customer sites, had an issue with a PostgreSQL server.
Regards,
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